The Raffensperger Call: 'I Just Want to Find 11,780 Votes'

Brad RaffenspergerThis is Brad Raffensperger, Secretary of State of Georgia.

Donald TrumpBrad, this is Donald Trump. I'm speaking with Mark Meadows, Cleta Mitchell, and Kurt Hilbert. I think we have a lot of people on the line. But thank you very much for taking the call. We spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it's pretty clear we won. We won very substantially in Georgia.

RaffenspergerMr. President, we've been going through the numbers. We've done a recount. We've done an audit. The numbers are the numbers.

TrumpWell, Brad, the people of Georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we're going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated.

TrumpSo we've got a number of things. We have at least 2,000 or 3,000 people that were voting, that were not registered to vote. We have the ballots that were dropped in massive numbers. We have the dead people. We have numerous dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number's close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number. And the number is in the, I think it's in the 4,502 range. And that's a lot.

Ryan GermanyMr. President, this is Ryan Germany, the general counsel. We've looked into each of those allegations. The number of dead people that we've found that voted is two. Two people. And we've referred those for prosecution.

TrumpWell, Cleta, how do you respond to that?

Cleta MitchellMr. Secretary, I think the issue is that your office has not been willing to share the data that would allow us to verify these numbers. We've asked for the voter files. We've asked for the ballot images. We've been stonewalled.

GermanyMs. Mitchell, we have provided the data. The voter files are public. We've provided everything that's been requested through proper channels.

TrumpSo look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state. And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, it's a testament that they can admit to a mistake. You know, it's a mistake that they made. And the people of Georgia deserve to know the truth.

RaffenspergerMr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We've looked at every single allegation. We've conducted a hand recount of every ballot. The outcome was confirmed three times.

TrumpBrad, why did you go through the process of having a consent decree and then you take the signature verification away? You took it away. You're not allowed to do that. And you know you're not allowed to do that.

GermanyMr. President, that consent decree related to the matching process. It did not eliminate signature verification. The signature verification is done by the counties. That's the process we've always had.

TrumpYou know what, Ryan? You're wrong about that. But let me tell you, we have a group of people that are very, very smart. They've looked at the signatures. And they've determined that there's at least 150,000 signatures that are, you know, that are not valid.

TrumpYou know, Brad, you have a big election coming up. You have a primary. And you have a lot of people that are very angry. And you know, I think you'd be in great shape if you could just, you know, get to the bottom of it. It's a big risk. It's a big risk to you, I think.

RaffenspergerMr. President, we've been working on this for two months. We've been through every allegation. We've followed the law. We've followed the Constitution. The results are what they are. I'm not going to change them. I can't change them. It would be illegal.

TrumpWell, under the law, you're not allowed to give false election results. Okay? You're not allowed to. And that's what you've done. You've given false election results. And the people of Georgia know it. And you know what's going to happen? You're going to have a very big problem. Because you're certifying false numbers.

RaffenspergerMr. President, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. We've done our job. We've certified the election. The results are final.

TrumpWell, Brad, I appreciate the call. I hope you can get to the bottom of it. It's very important for the country. And I'll be talking to you. Hopefully we'll talk again. Thank you very much.

RaffenspergerThank you, Mr. President.

MeadowsMr. Secretary, thank you for your time. If I could just say one more thing. In a lot of these investigations, what we're seeing is not just about Georgia. It's about a pattern of conduct that extends across multiple states. And I think the President is right. I think if we can just get to the bottom of it, we can all move forward.

RaffenspergerThank you, Mr. Meadows.